Ok, so Savage newcore is out and all Octode mods are in. I'm fine with that. I'd also throw out LSengine - while not super popular, MB and me have been using it quite a bit in the past. ZX-3, I doubt anyone would use it considering the interface. (I have used it once, it's awful). There'd be an argument for allowing ZX-7, considering it's just been added to 1tracker. On the other hand, Jan once told me that sales figures were into the 4-digit numbers, so even though nobody uses it today, it can hardly be called an unpopular engine. So I would still vote to disallow the entire ZX- family.

Savage newcore, on the other hand, is the same thing as the original Savage, just with cleaner sound, so it makes sense to exclude it.

Overall, yes, I'd propose to disallow Special FX, Huby, Music Studio, Music Box, original Octode, QChan, Phaser1 (any mod), Savage old and newcore, original Tritone. It makes sense to disallow ZX- family, although ZX-3 may be allowed, as it barely had any use as far as I know. Not sure on Lyndon Sharp's engine, it had limited use in modern times, but not much.

@Tufty: Hehe, that'd be a pretty damn long list by now Think it's indeed best to do a list with disallowed engines, and for the rest direct users to http://randomflux.info/1bit/viewtopic.php?id=25. (I have to check if that one's actually up to date though).

@garvalf: There once was a -rather successful- Beeper BotB battle. But it was a one-time thing, quite sure I'd have a hard time convincing puke7 to host another one any time soon considering how packed the battle schedule is nowadays. Anyway BotB does a good job of drawing attention to 1-bit music either way, seeing how zxbeep is now one of the most popular formats on there aside from the "big ones" (nsf*, s3xmodit, wild).

Ok, I'll try to make a start on "the" list then.
The following engines would be disallowed:

- FuzzClick (Special FX/Orfeus)
- Huby
- Music Studio
- Octode (should that include the XL, 2k15 and PWM variants?)
- Qchan
- Phaser1
- ROMbeep
- Savage (should include newcore imo)
- Tritone
- Wham! The Music Box

Any others I forgot? What about ZX-7, -10, and -16? ZX-7 has been used quite a bit in the old days. For the rest we had the Tribute compilation, so those engines have had their spotlight already. I think we might also want to give a "recommended" list, which should include Phaser 2/3, fluidcore, and perhaps quattropic.

Edit: Squeeker and BT'man need more love, too, imo.

For drawing attraction to new people, I guess the best would be to make it as a BotB competition (but this would maybe not draw that much people on this forum on the other hand), with only a list of allowed engines, excluding all the ones in beepola, like tritone, qchan..., and other popular like octode and such.

I've been very busy at work recently so haven't been very active on the forum but my enthusiasm for 1-bit hasn't diminished.

Maybe a list of allowed engines for the compo?

Regarding allowed engines, I think the easiest would be to draw the line at Phaser2, eg. all engines released prior to that would be prohibited. The only drawback would be that this would exclude Stocker. (I've got a -somewhat conceptual- Stocker project in the works, though ) What do you think?